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Lord Greystoke 2nd November 2014 05:20 PM

I like your thinking there Speedy. Regards a 7yo winning, would be 4 times since 1983 and the last 4 winners were 6yo. Makes you wonder a bit.

Cheers LG

Lord Greystoke 2nd November 2014 05:21 PM

Here is an interesting link which gives a nice run down back to 1983.

Cheers LG

darkydog2002 2nd November 2014 05:22 PM

Will be posted as usual on Cup Day Speedy.
Only got 2nd @50/1 last year.

Cheers

SpeedyBen 2nd November 2014 07:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Greystoke
I like your thinking there Speedy. Regards a 7yo winning, would be 4 times since 1983 and the last 4 winners were 6yo. Makes you wonder a bit.

Cheers LG

I considered allowing 7yo UK horses in as they are not 7 yet but quite a few UK 7yos have tried without success so I've left it as is.

SpeedyBen 2nd November 2014 07:21 PM

All this stuff makes me think that Makybe will still be spoken of with reverence in 50 years time.
She not only won as a 7yo but carried 58kg which has been beyond the males since the Cup went upmarket.

The Ocho 2nd November 2014 11:15 PM

Okay thanks guys.

I was just looking at the fields for the day's racing as I am in a cup day syndicate and all those fields are massive. No wonder we never do much good. :rolleyes:

We usually go for trifectas, first fours and running doubles (and a quaddie if there is enough left over). We are obviously trying to hit it big rather than just backing the fav (or whatever).

Does anyone have any other/different suggestions?

michaelg 3rd November 2014 08:12 AM

I had a Trifecta system on the M.Cup for several years but lost interest. On Cup morning I would look at the market in the Telegraph and all horses at $20 (or was it $25?) I would put them to win in a stand-out trifecta and the field to run second and third. I looked at this method from the results going back to the mid 70's when Trifectas were introduced, and the profit would have been amazing thanks to some big outsiders running second or/and third. I started betting with real money when flexi betting was introduced and the first year the trifecta paid in inxs of $20,000. There is so much "silly' money on the Cup - people bet on the horse/jockey's colours, names, numbers, birth dates, etc that often the exotics pay amazingly well. I lost interest when I unsuccessfully tried to adapt this trifecta method to other races and when the two Japanese horses quinelled the race. Tomorrow out of interest I will look the selections for the method.

UselessBettor 3rd November 2014 05:13 PM

Overall I have 11 horses marked as possible winners.

I've settled on 1,3,5,22,24 as the only significant chances of winning though.

If I have to narrow it down I would say I can't split 1,5 and 22 as the best of these.

AS for the race I'll be laying the 12 selections I don't see having a chance.

UselessBettor 3rd November 2014 05:33 PM

Here are the 11 I had as chances:

Admiral Rakti
Fawkner
Protectionist
Seismos
Junoob
Mutual Regard
Who shot the barman
Au Reviour
Araldo
Lucia Valentina
Signoff

Lord Greystoke 3rd November 2014 06:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
Here are the 11 I had as chances:

Admiral Rakti
Fawkner
Protectionist
Seismos
Junoob
Mutual Regard
Who shot the barman
Au Reviour
Araldo
Lucia Valentina
Signoff


Nice one UB. Lets hop that barman is wearing a vest bc I NAILED him at $26

Cheers LG


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