I think that all positions have been aired sufficiently. Criticism is one thing. Everybody has a right to express their view. Attacking the person continuously and riddiculing them becomes bullying. Attacking the person with support of others intensifies the bullying. This was the case. It was needless and pointless. I am happy to have any constructive input from Barny. His postings may prove beneficial. I hope that when he returns puts a constructive argument to posts that gets his goat, or just ignores the post. In the meantime lets get back to the forum because anymore comment starts us on a road to nowhere. Beton