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Old 5th October 2012, 09:47 PM
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Default Weight as a Filter 55kg+

This filter has been bandied about on this forum by darkydog2002 many times, and I believe he got it from Malcolm Knowles book.

In 2 of my systems I use TAB 1 to 6 but have had a tinker around tonight and replaced TAB 1 to 6 with 55kg+ and it's made an impressive difference. I wonder how the Pareto system would go by substituting the weight for TAB 1 to 6 ???

Thanks also for your input moeee, I wouldn't have tinkered had it not been for you.
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Old 5th October 2012, 10:00 PM
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I tinker all the time Barny.
Sometimes I get better.
Sometimes i get worse.
But in the long Run I end up just the same had I not tinkered.
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Old 6th October 2012, 12:59 PM
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Hi Barny,
Yes I did.
I try and get as much research as I can from this source as its applicable to Australian Racing conditions.
Cheers
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Old 6th October 2012, 04:31 PM
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Hi darkydog2002, I've always paid little respect to weight because of my unshakeable belief that unless there's a really large weight pull in favour of one horse over another, it makes no real difference. But now I'll look for weight as a good indicator to class, and I do have a system or two that uses weight variance as a filter to determine which horses are going up and down in class.
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Old 6th October 2012, 04:58 PM
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Hi Barny,
I,ve always been a weight man myself as I figure if its good enough for the
Official Race Club Handicappers its good enough for me.
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Old 6th October 2012, 06:20 PM
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There have been a couple close finishes today where undoubtedly weight has been the deciding factor between winner & loser.

So ignore weight at your peril!...a phrase my doc has often uttered
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Old 6th October 2012, 06:30 PM
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norisk, what were they and what were the weights please ?
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Old 6th October 2012, 10:13 PM
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The run of the day I thought with the 59kg was Maluckyday. Tanby only had 55.5kg.
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Old 6th October 2012, 10:21 PM
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Horses are fit muscular beast weighing say 600kg. To think that 3.5kg, which is 0.58% of it's overall weight is in the top 10 of influencing factors on the outcome of a race is something I cannot grasp at all. It would crap more than that in the mounting yard .......

Maybe weight is in the top 20 of variables, but it's not in the top 10.
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Old 6th October 2012, 10:43 PM
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From memory (because I don't have his books anymore)...

One of Don Scott's points regards the importance of weight carried is that at the margin eg on a wet track.. an extra kilo or 2 could "stop an express train" - may not have been the exact words he used, but pretty close I would say.

Using an everyday example.. a drop of water weighs how much? Dropper it onto a free-standing house of cards at the right/wrong point and the whole thing comes down.

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