The title says it all. Utilising the Axis ratings/data led to the "Indicators" providing the necessary selections to land Saturday's (Caulfield Cup day) Big 6. For an outlay of $1,728 you would have landed the massive Vic Tab dividend of $191,720.80. There were 3 x 3 x 3 x 4 x 4 x 4 indicators in the 6 legs.

Using our Indicators and ratings data, large exotic dividends such as these are not that uncommon, especially during the carnivals.

An indicator is: (taken directly from our website)

R2W Indicators - win more than 52% of races often at good odds, ignoring these when playing exotics can be very costly.
Overall the R2W Indicators win more than 52% of races (test period 1/8/2009 to 16/7/2012) so ignoring these horses especially when playing exotics can be very costly. On average we recorded 3.47 horses per race during the test period. Often winners are long shots in betting, in fact the longest price winner identified and backed by us was approximately 500/1 in a Brisbane metropolitan meeting on a Saturday. During the test period there were no less than 47 other winners => 50/1 and over 3,400 winners =>9/1.

Indicators are available to all clients with an Advanced + Indicators or Professional subscription. The ongoing subscription cost for Advanced + Indicators is approximately $44 a week.

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Paul Daily - Ratings2Win Pty Ltd (Director)
R2W Axis - Axis is Australia's leading horse racing software and database; with sophisticated form analysis tools and accurate performance ratings that include Hong Kong.
http://www.ratings2win.com.au/

Hi PaulD01,

Congratulations on your ratings database, it looks very promising and you've obviously put a lot of work into it.

A question or two:

A 52% SR sounds great but not if you're losing 10% POT. Do the R2W indicators make a profit at level stakes? Saturdays only??

From my experience it's nigh impossible to profit backing every race using ratings.

Do the R2W indicators show a profit on black type races excluding 2, 3yo races perhaps?

Please note I'm not having a go at your ratings Paul, or your integrity, as you seem to be a straight shooter, I'm merely looking for more info.

Have a fine day.

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Hi The Schmile,

Thanks for your post. I will deal with your questions one at a time.

Do the R2W indicators make a profit at level stakes?

No rating as you are already aware can deliver a level stakes or proportional profit betting across all races. In terms of your question though, the results at level stakes for the indicators are as follows (all races 56,928, horses 186,365 avg. of 3.27 per race):



Betting proportionally the POT is -6.8%.

Saturdays only?

Similar results POT -8.25%, proportionally it's -6.75%

Do the R2W indicators show a profit on black type races excluding 2, 3yo races perhaps?

No.

Some of the many interesting results though when viewing the analysis.

1. When our expected leader (determined by our PIR ranking) is also an indicator the LOT is reduced to 1.26% across 23,690 bets;
2. When an indicator and also Betfair favourite the LOT is reduced to 2.72% across 36,013 bets;
3. Indicators that are backmarkers lose nearly 9.5 times that of our expected leaders. Once again the important point here is that the backmarkers are R2W labelled backmarkers;
This is all quite amazing when you consider the dividend option used namely SP/NSW tote.

The main point of difference here is that the presence of a horse that is an indicator greatly enhances its return profile. This is especially so when betting exotics. What you will find is that the indicators deliver more long priced winners consistently than any other rating/ranking that is commercially available. Whether the selection is odds on or 500/1 the indicators deliver a balanced distribution of selections across all price ranges.

A great way of determining the value of an additional source of data is to examine its impact when measured against key factors such as metropolitan favourites. This is relevant because as a group, metro favourites have the best return profile. For e.g. backing all metropolitan favourites returns a LOT of 4%. When overlaying our indicators this is reduced to 2.5% (a massive 37.5% improvement). In addition the strike rate moves upwards by approximately 4-5% (an 18% improvement).

Of course there are a myriad of filters that can be applied that dramatically improve the base results without the risk of back fitting the analysis. For e.g. one of the 115+ analysis factors that contains a group of more than 17,000 bets actually makes a profit and another with around 2,000 selections makes a profit of 20% even at SP/NSW.

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Paul Daily - Ratings2Win Pty Ltd (Director)
R2W Axis - Axis is Australia's leading horse racing software and database; with sophisticated form analysis tools and accurate performance ratings that include Hong Kong.
http://www.ratings2win.com.au/

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your thorough response, it looks like an amazing tool!

You've given me much food for thought!

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The Schmile

"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty