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19/10/2001 edition

Horse Racing
Betting Tips

Tote punters get more for your punting dollar

Best tote odds for New South Wales horse, Mistegic's upset win in the 1000 metres Group 2 Schillaci Stakes at Caulfield were $16.80 on the Queensland tote - no need to guess which horse was way under the odds.

That's right. Worst tote odds available on Mistegic was of course New South Wales where he only returned $13.40. Punters faithful to their home state horses usually pay a loyalty bonus in the form of smaller dividends should they be fortunate enough to win.

Loyal New South Wales punters did not just receive a smaller dividend than punters from the other states when Mistegic won on Saturday at Caulfield.

When New South Wales horse Freemason won the Group 2 Herbert Power Stakes over 2400 metres at Caulfield he paid $14.40 on SuperTab. New South Wales punters received the worst tote odds, only $12.10. Why would you be loyal to a horse from your state with only four wins and another seven placings from 36 starts? By the way, for readers of this site who have followed our comments about John Hawkes' trained horses, Freemason was yet another John Hawkes' trained winner at double figure odds!

When New South Wales horse Lonhro won the Group 1 Caulfield Guineas over 1600 metres he paid $5.60 on SuperTab. New South Wales punters received the worst tote odds, a paltry $4.70.

All these odds were pretty ordinary for Lonhro considering he started at $7.00 in the bookmakers' betting ring.

Queensland tote punters also paid heavily for their loyalty. They only got $13.00 when Queensland horse Show A Heart won the Group 1 Toorak Handicap at Caulfield. On SuperTab punters got $17.60!

What was really hard to believe was Queensland plodder Philidor, who was in a restricted handicap in the last at Rosehill showing only $3.90 on the Queensland tote compared to $4.20 on the other totes. All these prices were shocking value for that five year old plodding gelding who has managed a paltry two wins and five placings from 24 starts.

Philidor has cost punters a fortune, yet Queensland punters thought they should back him, and despite all the money they have already had lost on him, (he has regularly been sent out a short priced favourite), their home state loyaly had him at shorter odds than in the other states.

Backers of Philidor were fortunate. Luckily for them he was scratched at the barrier and their bets were returned.

Just last Wednesday on that betting nightmare meeting, Thousand Guineas Day at Caulfield, there was a 900 metres two year old Fillies Listed race. There was a field of 15 fillies. 14 were first starters.

It was farcical how so many punters had to have a bet when the odds were so heavily stacked against them and grasped at straws. The winner, Brief Embrace paid $10.80 on the New South Wales tote, $9.50 on SuperTab (Victorian tote) and a pathetic $6.40 on the Queensland tote.

The trainer of the horse, Peter Moody, is based at Eagle Farm, which is in Queensland. He was the only Queensland based trainer in the race. So many Queenslanders, knowing nothing about the form - there was none, backed a horse entered by a Queensland trainer!

Punting on horses is not like showing loyalty to a football team and supporting them through thick and thin. Do that with horses and they will usually cost you money.

The plan of attack should be obvious. If you are only betting on your local tote it will often pay to back an interstate horse instead of a horse from your own state which will usually be significant unders on your local tote.

The significant unders you get on your winners means you will not be able to back enough horses to cover the losing bets you have.

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Short Priced Tote Favourites

These are losing bets.
Look at the table below and see the percentages lost backing short priced tote favourites compared with bookmaker betting ring prices.

It is just about impossible to get a high enough strike rate backing short priced tote favourites to make up for the big unders on the tote.
If you regularly get poor odds you must lose.

Did you back any of these winners recently?
If you did, see the prices you should have got.


Get these prices? Or these prices!! Extra percentage won Extra Profit $100 bet
Comhere 4.20 6.50 105% $230
Lonhro 4.70 7.00 85% $230
Guide 5.20 7.00 43% $180
Magic Feather 3.30 4.60 57% $130
Paris Heartbeat 4.40 5.50 32% $110
Newquay 2.10 3.00 82% $90
Patterns 3.20 4.00 36% $80
Salgado 2.30 2.90 46% $60
Dynamic Dancer 2.40 3.00 43% $60

Back Tote Longshots?


Get these prices? Or these prices!! Extra Profit $100 bet
Boogie Knight 36.90 42.50 $560
Close To Danger 20.50 25.20 $470
Show A Heart 13.00 17.60 $460
Elathea 13.60 17.10 $350
Our Eeyore 19.80 23.30 $350
Mistegic 13.40 16.80 $340
Freemason 12.10 14.40 $230

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