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17/11/2012 edition

Group 1 Horse Racing Results

Here are the Group 1 horse racing results on VRC Derby Day, Saturday, 3rd. November, 2012.
(Where possible registered names have been used for the races.)

Flemington: VRC Derby Day - Track Dead R1 - R2, Good R3 - R9.

R4: $500,000 Ascot Vale Stakes. Group 1. 3YO. Set weights.
Distance: 1200 metres.
Field size: 11
Winner: Nechita
Jockey: Christian Reith
Trainer: John P Thompson
Bookmaker top fluctuation: $5.50
Bookmaker starting price: $5.00
Best tote: $5.60
Second: Jolie Bay - beaten by 0.75 lengths
Jockey: Michael Rodd
Trainer: Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes
Bookmaker starting price: $9.00
Favourite: Snitzerland
Finish: 5th.
Jockey: Corey Brown
Trainer: Gerald Ryan
Bookmaker starting price: $4.40

R5: $1,000,000 Mackinnon Stakes. Group 1. 3YO and upwards. Weight for Age.
Distance: 2000 metres.
Field size: 8
Winner: Alcopop
Jockey: Craig Williams
Trainer: Jake Stephens
Bookmaker top fluctuation: $6.00
Bookmaker starting price: $6.00
Best tote: $5.20
Second: Glass Harmonium - beaten by 0.3 lengths
Jockey: Damien Oliver
Trainer: Michael Moroney
Bookmaker starting price: $14.00
Favourite: Ocean Park
Finish: 3rd.
Jockey: Glen Boss
Trainer: Gary Hennessy
Bookmaker starting price: $1.70

R6: $1,500,000 Victoria Derby. Group 1. 3YO. Set weights.
Distance: 2500 metres.
Field size: 16
Winner: Fiveandahalfstar
Jockey: Damien Oliver
Trainer: Anthony Cummings
Bookmaker top fluctuation: $41.00
Bookmaker starting price: $41.00
Best tote: $22.60
Second: Super Cool - beaten by 1.5 lengths
Jockey: Michael Rodd
Trainer: Mark Kavanagh
Bookmaker starting price: $6.00
Favourite: It's A Dundeel
Finish: 7th.
Jockey: James McDonald
Trainer: Murray Baker
Bookmaker starting price: $2.70

R7: $500,000 Empire Rose Stakes. Group 1. 3YO & UP. Fillies & Mares. Weight for Age.
Distance: 1600 metres.
Field size: 13
Winner: Appearance
Jockey: Michael Rodd
Trainer: Guy Walter
Bookmaker top fluctuation: $51.00
Bookmaker starting price: $41.00
Best tote: $53.40
Second: Soft Sand - beaten by 0.4 lengths
Jockey: Craig Williams
Trainer: Colin Little
Bookmaker starting price: $10.00
Favourite: Streama
Finish: 8th.
Jockey: Hugh Bowman
Trainer: Guy Walter
Bookmaker starting price: $3.00

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